PART SEVEN
STANDING ON THE OUTSIDE
We meet with hip hop pioneers to discuss the origins of the genre and all that it gave rise to, particularly its influence on culture. A wider look is taken at music’s role in politics, social change and comedy as well as the darker side of music and how it has been used by some of history’s worst people.
FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE & INSTITUTIONS IN THIS EPISODE
Exclusive interviews in order of appearance in Part Seven
Ben West
Writer, Artist, Historian
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Michelle Brasier
Comedian, Musician, Author
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Robert Pearce
Performer, Author
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Rajinder Dudrah
Professor of Cultural Studies and Creative Industries
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Jim Moray
Singer Songwriter, Music Educator
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Dr Fiorella Montero- Diaz
Lecturer in Ethnomusicology, Keele University
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Givonna Joseph
Opera singer, lecturer and therapist
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PIQSIQ
Musicians
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Donald Harrison Jr
Musician and composer, Big Chief of Congo Square
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Sanju Sahai
Musician, Head of the Benares Tabla
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Grandmaster Caz
Rapper, Songwriter, DJ, Hip Hop Legend
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Grand Wizzard Theodore
Rapper, Songwriter, DJ, Hip Hop Legend
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John Robb
Punk musician and author
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Grace Petrie
Musician
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Shirley J Thompson
Composer, Music Educator
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Ian Wade
Music Journalist and DJ
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Robin Ince
Comedian, Author, Broadcaster
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Andrew Lawn
Writer, Podcaster
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Riki Lindholme
Comedian, Actress, Musician
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Jim Bob
Musician & Author
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Some of the institutions releavant to this episode
The Cosmic Shambles Network
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Kings Place Music Foundation
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The Royal Institution
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The Hip Hop Museum
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OperaCréole
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Guardians Institute
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The Laura Kinsella Foundation
FURTHER READING LIST
If you’d like to dig into any of the topics in this episode a little deeper, you can subscribe to our Patreon for upcoming extended interviews or pick up one of the books below. These are books by the interviewees featured in this episode, books we read in our research and recommended fascinating books of the topics covered.
- 1984: The Year Pop Went Queer by Ian Wade Buy It
- Punk Rock: An Oral History by John Robb Buy It
- Punk Rock Ruined My Life: And other stories by John Robb Buy It
- We Lose Every Week: The History of Football Chanting by Andrew Lawn Buy It
- The Bollywood Reader by Rajinder Dudrah and Jigna Desai Buy It
- Oh Yes I Am! by Mama G / Robert Pearce Buy It
- My Brother’s Ashes are in a Sandwich Bag by Michelle Brasier Buy It
- Queer Blues: The Hidden Figures of Early Blues Music by Darryl W Bullock Buy It
- R. Crumb’s Heroes of Blues, Jazz & Country by Robert Crumb Buy It
- The Devil’s Music by Giles Oakley Buy It
- Deep Blues: A Musical and Cultural History of the Mississippi Delta by Robert Palmer Buy It
- Musical Truth: A Musical Journey Through Modern Black Britain by Jeffrey Boakye Buy It
- Blues and the Poetic Spirit by Paul Garon Buy It
- Rebel Musix, Scribe on a Vibe: Frontline Adventures Linking Punk, Reggae, Afrobeat and Jazz by Vivien Goldman Buy It
- 50 Queer Music Icons Who Changed the World by Will Larnach-Jones Buy It
- Country Music, U.S.A. by Bill C Malone Buy It
- Hip-Hop Is History by Questlove Buy It
PLAYLIST
Each episode we’ll present you with a playlist of all the songs featured, mentioned or discussed in the episode. Enjoy the playlist and if you do discover some new music you enjoy, please do buy the album or single and support the artists!
Part Seven Playlist
- Bobby Cole – Vintage Johnson Blues
- Arthur “Big Boy” Crudup – That’s All Right
- Piqsiq – Storm – Live
- Donald Harrison; Dr. John – Big Chief
- Gil Scott-Heron – The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
- JAŸ-Z; Alicia Keys – Empire State Of Mind
- Grandmaster Caz – South Bronx Subway Rap
- The Sugarhill Gang – Rapper’s Delight – Long Version
- Grand Wizard Theodore – Military Cut
- Cold Crush Brothers – Swing High Swing Low
- Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five – Superrappin’
- Afrika Bambaataa – Wild Style
- Ray Charles – I Got a Woman
- Toots & The Maytals – Do The Reggay
- Deford Bailey – Fox Chase
- Uncle Jimmy Thompson – Uncle Jimmy’s Favorite Fiddling Pieces
- The Velvet Underground; Nico – Run Run Run
- New York Dolls – Personality Crisis
- Sex Pistols – Anarchy In The UK
- Sex Pistols – No Fun – Remastered 2012
- The Membranes – Muscles
- The Birthday Party – Release The Bats
- The Clash – London Calling – Remastered
- Ramones – Pet Sematary
- Blondie – X Offender – Remastered 2001
- Laibach – Strange Fruit
- Billie Holiday – Strange Fruit
- Billy Bragg – There Is Power in a Union
- Grace Petrie – Fixer Upper
- Shirley J. Thompson; Royal Philharmonic Orchestra – Location, Location, Location
- Victor Jara – Manifiesto
- Daniel Viglietti – Dale Tu Mano al Indio (Canción para Mi América)
- Bad Bunny; NFL – Super Bowl LX Halftime Show – Live
- Duran Duran – Hungry Like the Wolf – 2009 Remaster
- The Specials – Man at C&A
- Madness – Blue Skinned Beast
- Ewan MacColl – The Driver’s Song
- Woody Guthrie – Worried Man Blues
- Pete Seeger – Solidarity Forever
- Jim Moray – When This Old Hat Was New
- The 1959 Version – On the Ball City
- Cilla Black – Anyone Who Had a Heart
- Shamshad Begum – Ek Do Teen
- Shamshad Begum; Mohammed Rafi – O Gaadiwale
- Frankie Goes To Hollywood – Relax
- Soft Cell – Tainted Love
- David Bowie – Starman – 2012 Remaster
- Bronski Beat – Smalltown Boy
- Culture Club – Do You Really Want To Hurt Me
- Kylie Minogue – I Should Be so Lucky
- Billie Eilish – bad guy
- Rick Astley – Never Gonna Give You Up
- Kate Nash – GERM
- Straight White Teeth – My Love Will Follow Through
- Michelle Brasier – Hello
- Garfunkel and Oates – The Loophole
- Garfunkel and Oates – Fuck You
- Riki Lindhome – Middle Age Love
- Basil Poledouris – Main Title
- “Weird Al” Yankovic – Tacky
- Rachel Bloom – Fuck Me, Ray Bradbury
- The Lonely Island; Chris Parnell – Lazy Sunday
- MAWAAN – Are You Checking Me out or Are You Just a Racist?
- Bo Burnham – White Woman’s Instagram
- The Stranglers – Golden Brown
- Jim Bob – Danny From Nowhere
- Cold Chisel – Standing On The Outside
QUIZ
How closely were you paying attention? Take our episode quiz to test yourself, your friends, your family, your children, random passers by…
1.What musical does Stephen Sondheim credit with bringing ‘intelligence’ into the genre?
Showboat
2. In the movie adaptation of ‘Into the Woods’, what role does Anna Kendrick play?
Cinderella.
3. What is the name of Robert Pearce’s panto dame alter ego?
Mama G
4. O Lord, when do you want to be, in that number?
O When the Saints Go Marchin’ In.
5. What is the title of India’s first film with full sound?
Alam Ari
6.How old was Priscilla Wagner when Elvis Presley, then 24, first met her and began dating?
14
7. What two key musical elements of hip hop did Grand Wizzard Theodore invent?
The needle drop and the record scratch.
8. of which post-punk band was John Robb the bassist and founding member?
The Membranes.
9. What won’t make up for Michelle Brasier’s dead dad?
Your lasagna.
10. Which Nirvana song is Weird Al discussing in regards to his parody?
Smells Like Teen Spirit.
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