PART NINE
TOMORROW
In a world of streaming and AI, what does the future hold for music? We look at some of the more recent phenomena in the world of music including raves, electronic music, the Broadway musical, crowd funding and musical therapy. We speak to astronauts and space legends about why music is so important we sent it into outer space and how the power of live music can never be understated.
FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE & INSTITUTIONS IN THIS EPISODE
Exclusive interviews in order of appearance in Part Nine
Colonel Chris Hadfield
Astronaut, Int Space Station Commander, Author, Broadcaster
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Givonna Joseph
Opera singer, lecturer and therapist
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Dr Dean Burnett
Neuroscientist and author
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Charlotte Church
Musician
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Robin Ince
Comedian, Author, Broadcaster
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Ruba Hillawi
Music educator and musician
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Dr Suzi Gage
Psychologist, epidemiologist and author
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Martin James
Music Journalist, Professor of Music Industries, Writer
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John Robb
Punk musician and author
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Dan Freeman
Musician, Music Technologist, Lecturer
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Jack McNeill
Composer, DJ and Music technology researcher
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Dr Anna Xambo Sedo
Music Producer, Music Computing Researcher
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Steve Pretty
Musician
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Dr Orchisama Das
Audio and acoustic researcher
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Nitin Sawhney
Musician and composer
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Kelley Jakle
Singer, Actress
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Ed Alstrom
Live Organist – Yankee Stadium
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Ginny Smith
Neuroscientist writer and presenter
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Melvin Benn
Managing Director, Festival Republic
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Sophie Galpin
Musician, Singer/Songwriter AKA SOFT LAD
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Riki Lindholme
Comedian, Actress, Musician
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Ann Druyan
Creative Director of NASA’s Voyager Interstellar Message
Emmy winning Writer, Director, Producer
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Some of the institutions releavant to this episode
The Cosmic Shambles Network
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Kings Place Music Foundation
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The Royal Institution
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The Laura Kinsella Foundation
FURTHER READING LIST
If you’d like to dig into any of the topics in this episode a little deeper, you can subscribe to our Patreon for upcoming extended interviews or pick up one of the books below. These are books by the interviewees featured in this episode, books we read in our research and recommended fascinating books of the topics covered.
- An Astronaut’s Guide to Life on Earth by Chris Hadfield Buy It
- Say Why to Drugs: Everything You Need to Know about the Drugs We Take and Why We Get High by Suzi Gage Buy It
- The Importance of Being Interested: Adventures in Scientific Curiosity by Robin Ince Buy It
- The Music Instinct: How Music Works and Why We Can’t Do Without It by Philip Ball Buy It
- Overloaded: How Every Aspect of Your Life is Influenced by Your Brain Chemicals by Ginny Smith Buy It
- The Happy Brain: The Science of Where Happiness Comes From, and Why by Dean Burnett Buy It
- The Idiot Brain: Why Your Brain Gets Things Wrong and Why That’s Alright by Dean Burnett Buy It
- State of Bass by Martin James Buy It
- The Nineties: What the F**ck Was That All About? by John Robb Buy It
- Curepedia: The A-Z biography of The Cure by Simon Price Buy It
- A Home in the Cosmos by Ann Druyan Buy It
- The Vinyl Frontier: The Story of NASA’s Interstellar Mixtape by Jonathan Scott Buy It
- How Music Works by David Byrne Buy It
- You Have Not Yet Heard Your Favourite Song: How Streaming Changes Music by Glenn McDonald Buy It
- Cold Chisel: Wild Colonial Boys by Michael Lawrence Buy It

PLAYLIST
Each episode we’ll present you with a playlist of all the songs featured, mentioned or discussed in the episode. Enjoy the playlist and if you do discover some new music you enjoy, please do buy the album or single and support the artists!
Part Nine Playlist

- Bobby Cole – Vintage Johnson Blues
- Chris Hadfield – Space Oddity
- Chris Hadfield – Jewel in the Night
- Grateful Dead – Casey Jones – 2001 Remaster
- Enya – Only Time
- Pink Floyd – Bike
- The Beatles – Tomorrow Never Knows – Remastered 2009
- The Prodigy – Firestarter
- The Prodigy – Voodoo People
- Orbital – HALCYON + ON + ON
- Dan Freeman – Do Your Own Thing
- Dolly Parton – 9 to 5
- Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds – O Children
- David Bowie – Ziggy Stardust – 2012 Remaster
- Nitin Sawhney – Homelands
- Taylor Swift – Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince
- The Cure – Play For Today
- The Cure – In Your House
- Jet – Rollover D.J.
- Ikoliks – Shake It Out
- John Farnham – You’re the Voice
- Kate Nash – Birds
- Hackney Colliery Band – Wrong or Right
- Olivia Dean – Dive
- Ludwig van Beethoven; Orford String Quartet – Cavatina (From String Quartet 13, Op. 130)
- Nonesuch Explorer Series – Ketawang Puspawarna
- Chuck Berry – Johnny B. Goode
- Louis Armstrong & His Hot Seven – Melancholy Blues
- Johann Sebastian Bach; Arthur Grumiaux – Partita for Violin Solo No.3 in E, BWV 1006: 3. Gavotte en Rondeau
- Nasa Voyager Golden Record – The Sounds of Earth
- Dua Lipa – Hallucinate
- Commodores – Nightshift
- McAlmont & Butler – Yes – Full Version
- Cold Chisel – Tomorrow

QUIZ
How closely were you paying attention? Take our episode quiz to test yourself, your friends, your family, your children, random passers by…
1.Who was the Arabic philosopher that theorised the link between music and feeling?
Ibn Sina
2. Who was the charismatic frontman for The Prodigy?
Keith Flint.
3. In an effort to stop illegal raves what did the UK government make it illegal to do?
Dance to repetitive beats.
4. What is the name of Dan Freeman’s laptop guitar device?
Blinky.
5. Is using AI to generate music from models based on others music legal?
At the moment, maybe, who knows, it’s a legal grey area, but it’s ethically dodgy and DON’T DO IT
6. What formed the basis of the main complaint The Cure and Robert Smith had against Ticketmaster?
Hidden fees adding to the ticket price they set.
7. What year were the Voyager space probes launched?
1977
8. Ann Druyan saw the Golden Record as her way to give thanks to which classical composer?
Beethoven.
9. What is the name of Chris Hadfield’s own penned Christmas Carol he intended on singing in space before Bowie?
Jewel in the Night.
10. How can you give thanks to the people that made this series and support them in making more series like it since the mainstream broadcasters don’t want to?
By subscribing at patreon.com/cosmicshambles
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